My GT SS multiplier is 20x , so SS gt goku is 18x SS3 buu saga goku. 1,457 likes. @thanosismad: Feats really stop mattering a long time ago. Anyways Goku wins and then Trunks comes and stomps ssj4 Goku after turning SSj2, power scaling puts SSJ2 Trunks > SSJ4 Goku right? Calificación. SSJ4 Goku is pretty much worthless. (In other words he didn't kill them when he could've). A former disciple of Master Roshi, he taught Goku everything he knew. Anónimo. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Base GT Goku in baby saga = SSJ3 EoZ Goku? SSJ4 murks him, why was this bumped? 2:08. He was brought back for a short time to spar against Goku … also you can rant about all of this but it doesnt change anything. When you say twice as strong as Buu ss3 goku do you mean as both separately.? Anywho I didn't wanna make it SSJ2 or SSJ3 (GT) cause then I though it would be a stomp for sure. do you have evidence he intended it to erase GT, and its not just one more contradiction? Rildo was stronger than Buu, but maybe not stronger than (Z) SSJ3 Goku. Wouldnt it be that much more powerful or could he reach ssj4 with all that energy?? BoGT Goku still stomps. Gohan wins. Goku 7/10 Reg goku in gt is equal to ssj3 dbz goku, and ssj 4 is said to be 400x base form. In his normal form he was able to beat both frieza and cell at the same time. Respuesta Guardar. Snake is using that to prove how many plotholes there are in the anime, and it can't be used as a credible source. Gohan forced Goku to use his Kaio-ken technique, which at the time was the limit of Goku's power. Now, the crappy Z feats are a joke compared to the crappy GT feats. Goku was stronger than Fat Buu and Kid Buu by a margin, he was holding back in both fights, so other ppl could fight. BoGT Goku still stomps. ambos nombres son validos. A building, glass, and a clock gave Goku trouble in his SSJ4 state when he shoved a mountain off of himself during his fight with Kid Buu while in SSJ3. ss3 was not as strong, it couldnt beat super buu, but mystic crushed it. But the thing about dbz is that when people get strong, they get stronger. I would give it to mystic gohan. vegeta2881. Anyone else wanna chime in? Ssj3 Goku states he can defeat buu Piccolo, than later is afraid to face his base form stating he's too strong. In the week prior to episode 90th, where Gohan was going to have a training fight against Goku in Super Saiyan Blue, a japanese magazine gave an advancement saying this was going to happen and that mystic Gohan was going to be able to hold his own against Super Saiyan Blue Goku. and its not like toriyama is ever stingy on whats canon and whats not. DragonBall is inconsistent as a whole. Gohan was about twice as strong as buu SS3 goku. Gohan místico en el planeta de los Supremos Kaio. But Goku in GT was, from what I've heard, as strong as Kid Buu in base form. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. gohan mistico y de donde sacas que goku en la saga boo puede con gohan en ssj 3 ,incluso goku dijo cuando boo perdió la transformación de gotes funcionado , que como estaba ahora hasta el podia ganarle en pocas palabras dejo dicho claro que hasta el ya podía ganarle sin la necesidad de que gohan lo hiciera. @deathgorath444: ik that's what is making this question hard. I would give it to mystic gohan, Mystic gohan was stronger than ss3 and ssj is 50x stronger than ssj3. maybe you can "train" to "relearn" ssj. Prior to the Tournament of Power, Gohan failed to beat Super Saiyan Blue Goku… @johndanielmclemore: so do you still think it's a tie or close? @deathgorath444: No, SS GT goku destroys gohan. Mystic Gohan is stronger but he isn't 50x stronger than ssj3. gt's databook states he can go ssj SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE he did not stop training. Maybe just even with him, and SSJ1 Goku was barely stronger than Rildo. GT characters are weak as hell in general compared to their Z counterparts. In that episode, we saw the true return form for Ultimate Gohan as he challenged his father to a one-on-one fight. It's important to note that Goku had to reach a whole new level just to beat Kefla in the anime. MA might win though. Obrigado Ehh......okay, Don't know what Beerus has to do with this but fine. Close, I really couldn't tell you which is stronger or if they're even, all I know is it's close. Mountain>Building. Na minha opinião tanto o Goku SSJ3 do DBZ quanto o Goku SSJ3 atual são superiores ao Gohan mistico . This topic is locked from further discussion. SS kid goku wins due to power advantage. Luhi. Personally I've always suspected that Toriyama just preferred the way Gohan looked with black hair. En estado Base Goku es superior, en Mistico, Gohan supera la Fase 2 pero no es rival para la 3, el Blue y el Kaio-ken están fuera de su poder actual, pero a Gohan le queda mucho poder oculto, ACLARAR que solo se uso el Blue porque Gohan lo pidió, si no lo hubiera hecho el hubiera ganado si es que Goku no hubiera subido a la … ¿quien es mas fuerte gohan mistico o goku super sayajin 3? SSJ4 can barely lift up a building. Both Gohan and Android 17 seemed to struggle equally against Universe 11's Top , so it was clear then that the two were somewhat close in power levels, but far away from Goku and Vegeta. It's the strongest non SS or fusion form anyone has. SSJ4 Goku is pretty much worthless. Gohan obtiene acceso a la forma definitiva mientras entrena en el planeta del Supremo Kaio, liberando accidentalmente a un Supremo Kaio, de varias generaciones pasadas, encarcelado en la Espada Z.Para agradecerle por liberarlo, el viejo Supremo Kaio pasa más de 20 horas realizando un extraño ritual para desbloquear todo el potencial de Gohan … @omegadynasty: your both wrong. ssj4 goku lifted half a city, not a building. Was the guy right? Hard to power scale a bad series that's less consistent than the dreadful DBZ movies. I really want Mystic Gohan to win this, he is one of my favourite characters. For me I think the question is how much stronger was Mystic Gohan compared to SSJ3 Goku? si gohan mistico es lo mismo que gohan definitivo. But Goku in GT was, from what I've heard, as strong as Kid Buu in base form. So in DBZ most people will agree that Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. 1:59. bueno ten en cuenta que vegetto estaba al mismo nivel que majin buu el cual tenia grandes poderes y suma los poderes que adquirio cuando absorvio a gohan mistico ,picoro, trunks, goten im sure he would just tell you "oh yeah well....whatever you want to count as official, you can count that as official". he had just gotten it. Since he didn't, it's generally assumed that he can't. Feats are what matters, and GT characters have horrible feats. toriyama is proud of GT, loved watching it, and was happy to let toei do it on their own having become tired of serialisation. So in DBZ most people will agree that Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Gohan lack the … Gohan en el estado Mistico, Gracias al Kaio-Shin Anciano all lies. Goku takes it I doubt ultimate Gohan is 50× stronger than ss3 so I would put them at equals at best plus Goku is far more experienced and in this kind of fight that will matter. 426 likes. In light of the post attempting to prove SSJ3 Goku is superior to Mystic Gohan, I am going to briefly explain why Mystic Gohan is more powerful.The manga isn't even vague about this, so I've never really understood the argument to begin with. That means by GT base Goku = SS3 Buu saga Goku. Your comment almost five years is extremely ironic because SSJ God Goku who was claimed to be only possibly affected by God Ki was murdered by a weak ass laser gun coming from a typical soldier. Mas existem personagens que ultrapassaram o poder do Gohan Místico. The way I've always understood it was Goku tells Pan "He's even stronger than Majin Buu" I always thought that meant "The Fat" Buu, but I could be wrong. Vot por tu opcin favorita! 11:13. that doenst mean he hated GT. Gohan Mistico. Mystic gohan is stronger but he isn't 50x stronger than ssj3, @deathgorath444: it was a joke but I change and give it to Ssj1 Goku. This character has been the focal point of the series from the very first chapter of Dragon Ball and trying to change the face of the series would've been quite a hard sell to fans at that time.. 8 GOHAN… yo creo que goku fase 3 ya que fue capas de mantener una pelea contra kid buu que era muy fuerte y gohan apenas pudo pelear contra buu flaco que le dio una paliza. @deathgorath444: it was a joke but I change and give it to Ssj1 Goku. You'd think this would have been a prime situation for him to change to SS or SS2 if it were possible for him to do so. Yeah I figured it was a joke which is why I answered the way I did. Ssj4 contains the tremendous power of the Golden Great Ape, which is the pinnacle of a saiyans power. I though Rildo was stronger than Kid Buu? That's a huge gap, and I would think by that point, even just SS1 would be able to give MG a run for his money, let alone SS4. Base Goku on Planet M2 is stronger than Rildo, whose stronger than Buuhan. Base GT Goku was said to be as powerful as SSJ3 Z Goku. Nofa. I place Mystic on par with SSJ3 3, maybe a little higher, but SSJ4 tops that. Mystic Gohan was a lot stronger than SS3 Goku, or SS3 fusion Gotenks for that matter. Gt Goku base = SSJ3 Goku EoZ, i thought this for the longest time and then someone told me that's GT Goku in BABY saga, how can we trust GT fans if they forget/ignore or just flat out miss the fact that Goku powers up by EoGT? Ultimate Gohan>SSJ3 Goku  GT characters are weak as hell in general compared to their Z counterparts. Pretty sure SSJ4 is above Mystic Gohan by a good margin. A building, glass, and a clock gave Goku trouble in his SSJ4 state when he shoved a mountain off of himself during his fight with Kid Buu while in SSJ3. Gohan takes this fight, and with ease. Respuesta preferida. 1 1. … That being said, one can't deny that the first name that comes to the mind of anyone who hears the words Dragon Ball is Son Goku.. re: SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan In addition to Gokou being stronger than Gohan, Gokou is a better fighter. do you think dark knight returns is retarded shit cos bruce wayne's not an old man? Mystic gohan was stronger than ss3 and ssj is 50x stronger than ssj3. That wasn't Ssj4 guys, watch it again that was base goku. @jkfallen Let's be honest. Feats are what matters, and GT characters have horrible feats. prefer him when he fought Cell but ssj4 goku beat him no contest, i would say Mystic Gohan is about twice as strong as ssj3 Goku.. probably less, but in GT Goku is said to be as strong as his dbz ssj3 form in his GT base form which then makes him 400 times stronger than he was in dbz (Stupid i know) so GT Goku just turning ssj would beat gohan but then you add the ssj4 modifier which is 10 then he would stand no chance. Too close to really tell a difference anyways. I hate GT battles and Fans with all their Bull Calcs and crappy feats, @comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: but the calcs are pretty accurate though dbgt feats aren't that bad base kid goku blew up a dimension in gt. He died when Goku accidentally turned into an Oozaru and crushed him underneath his foot. BoG (SS3) goku can take gohan in a 1 on 1. I somewhat familiar with the cartoon. I still think GT Base Goku = SSJ3 Goku (Z), I have SS GT goku about 8x stronger than mystic gohan. Even using his Kaio-ken technique while in his Super Saiyan Blue form wasn't enough to handle Kefla. Ssj4 draws it's users power up to its absolute limit. Yeah that is what's going to do it for me, In order for me to deiced I need to know just how much stronger does the Mystic form make you compared to a SSJ3. SSJ4 Goku puts MG to sleep. His base was stated to be around DBZ SSJ3 level. so its treating it as an add on to ultimate. iremos ser mais ativos. Mystic Gohan was only a little bit stronger than SSJ3. GT is stupid, can't base Trunks one shot a guy > ssj1 GT Goku? Gohan é sem dúvida o cara com mais potencial da saga DBZ. So if Gohan is twice as strong as SSJ3 Goku & you have base GT Goku being a bit weaker than SSJ3 Goku yet GT SSJ1 Goku wins just how much more stronger is GT SSJ1 Goku to SSJ3 Goku? Mystic Gohan VS Black Goku (Dragonball Super Fan Animation by UHG Animation) Xuhixuc. Like x how much? you intellectually dishonest fool. The most obvious reason to think this is the fight with Buutenks. Cómo dibujar a Gohan SSJ2 (Batalla de Cell) | How to draw Gohan SSJ2. Gohan ssj2 vs goku - bardack - majub. This is an unholy stomp, especially if it is EoGT Goku. How big is the gap between the Mystic and End SSJ3. Base Goku on Planet M2 is stronger than Rildo, whose stronger than Buuhan. So SS4 is OFFICIALLY non-canon, along with the rest of GT. Quem derrotou Boo foi Goku SSJ3 , o Gohan mistico foi derrotado e absorvido por ele . I think your the first to explain why they can be very close, Good Job! olá amigos :3,por favor curtam a nossa página! In DBGT It is said that Goku in base form in the beginning of GT is on par with SSJ3 Goku at he end of Z. Goku les dice a Milk, Bulma, y a los demás que Gohan y Vegeta murieron [Audio Latino] Darron Vail. Ssj4 goku is overkill. 4:21. Gohan Místico. So if we were to take Beginning of GT Goku at SSJ1 and put him against Mystic Gohan who would win. If so i can't believe this has never been brought up and honestly every GT fan should be ignored due to missing that lol. Goku wins handily. This thread may be done, dunno. Gotenks ssj3 é mais specialty que o Goku porque o Goku ssj3 só consegue controla a força do ssj3 com perfeição morto,quando ele ficou vivo ele teve dificuldade de controla esse … he also lifted baby oozaru form and chucked him like a ragdoll. Na verdade, qualquer transformação superior ao Super Sayajin 3 é bem mais poderosa que o estado Místico. Really that bad? You'd think this would have been a prime situation for him to change to SS or SS2 if it were possible for him to do so. you ignore goku stopping a planet buster, lifting and chucking oozaru baby, and busting a dimension. E tanto Goku … @robinboywonder5: you do realize mystic gogan came after gohan teenage phase, @xxxcarzellxxx: yea lol he was the strongest Saiyan in the Buu saga, Mystic Gohan gets stomped this fight by SSJ Goku (DBGT). Of course, this is assuming GT makes any kind of sense, and I've heard it doesn't, even by DBZ standards. he had so much potential but he turned out to be a pansy, goku ssj3 stomps him just cuz he aint lame. If we use the multiplier of 50x (since SSJ is 50x base), then SSJ1 GT Goku should win this. SS4 is just a bunch of retarded shit that even toriyama is embarassed to say that he drew. But if we're saying Goku turned ssj4 during the Buu saga Goku would still be about 5 times stronger than Gohan. Mystic Gohan wins, his character was meant to be the strongest z fighter- that is until chichi made him become a wimp. gohan definitivo vs vegetto . Correct me if I'm wrong. Mystic Gohan was a lot stronger than SS3 Goku, or SS3 fusion Gotenks for that matter. Tu voto puede cambiarlo todo! SSJ1 is a stomp. There's no way Mystic Gohan is 50x stronger than Goku in DBZ. @jashro44. Goku foi capaz de luta contra kid buu e gohan mistico apanho pacas pro super buu gotenks absorvido,e kid buu supera o poder de todas suas formas ateriore Fonte(s): Meus conhecimentos sobre animes 3 9 That happened with goku in gt. SSJ4 Goku. re: SSJ3 Goku VS Mystic Gohan {V.2.0} Are people this freakin ignorant. gana vegetto por que. Oh, and I have GT goku a bit weaker than his SS3 self. Gohan was getting his butt kicked pretty bad and was about to get killed until Goku popped up and distracted Buu. 3:50. By exponential amounts from one level to the next. he caught it with his bare hands easily. thats then. People really believe Mystic Gohan was 50 times stronger than SS3? this thread exists regardless of GT being an alternate world or not. glass never did anything. So yeas, Ultimate Gohan is much stronger than his father, and his state is CONSTANT because it is not a transformation. This was in order to test Gohan’s strength comparative to Goku. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Mystic Gohan is pretty strong. What if gohan went super saiyan2 after he was elevated to mystic level? so if its canon, it is canon to the anime. Bills derroto a Gohan muy Facilmente , por lo que Goku ssj Dios Venceria a Gohan Facil pero con mas dificultad que bills , tambien influye que Gohan alla dejado de Entrenar. your intellectually dishonest. how come DB online is perfect, but Gt is the one with the continuity problems? hace 9 años. do you like lying and making up nonsense? Goku had to achieve the incomplete version of Ultra Instinct before he could attain a victory over Kefla. SS4 would curbstomp mystic Gohan. sempre existiu essa treta de quem é o mais forte, gohan mistico ou goku ssj3, mas para min é evidente que o gohan leva uma certa vantagem, pois sua transformação representa 100% do seu poder. SS has always been a 20x multiplier for me. Er, who is Mystic Gohan again? Mysitc Gohan is somewhere in between SS2 and 3 forms, like SS2.5. Most people figure that the "mystic" stage for Gohan basically superseded the SS transformations, not that it brought his base form up to some ungodly level of power. Ssj 4 stomps hard (sorry gt haters). The most obvious reason to think this is the fight with Buutenks. The misconception fight between Gohan vs Goku in the Dragon Ball had the fan base hyped after episode 90 of Dragon Ball super. massive lies. O Gohan mistico ganha porque ele é mais specialty que o Gotenks ssj3,que é greater suitable a o Goku ssj3 então o Gohan ganha. also thats no reason to call it "retarded shit". But all-in-all I think they are roughly the same. In DBGT It is said that Goku in base form in the beginning of GT is on par with SSJ3 Goku at he end of Z. Gohan Místico é o personagem mais poderoso de todos? 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Grandpa Gohan is the elderly gentleman who found and raised the Saiyan Son Goku when he landed on Earth. How does Goku in Z struggle with 40 tons. 18/nov/2019 - Explore a pasta "gohan vs cell" de Gonclo, seguida por 124 pessoas no Pinterest. G. how do you know its constant?how do you know it doesnt wear off over time? Votación: Gohan vs Goku | Vot por dragon ball z gohan vs cell linkin park numb o Goku vs Broly - In the end! Waat? Love gohan!! 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